Attack On PNS Mehran: CNBC News
Posted on 01. Jun, 2011 by Raja Mujtaba in Pak-US Relations
A CNBC News Analysis
Raja Mujtaba, the Analyist
The analysis were conducted in two parts, first was the actual analysis of the attack and second was on the high powered visit led by Hillary Clinton who was accompanied by Admiral Mike Mullen. Both the analysis were live during the 2 PM CNBC News bulletins of 26th and 28th of May 2011.
The first analysis covered as to how the events took place and who were the forces behind it. This also had the mention of 200 US Marines that have been or are under the process of being dispatched said to be under the pressure of Pakistan Government or Military Establishment. Here it was necessary to point out that out of 7000 or so Blackwater personale even if 200 hundred are deported means nothing. Pakistan has been a close ally of the US for over six decades but at every critical juncture it has always dumped Pakistan. Now of late, sine 9/11, it has become a part of destabilizing factor. Raymond Davis is a living proof of that.
Seeing the depth of US involvement in destabilizing Pakistan it demands that the US Embassy should be shut down completely but to keep the working relations going, it’s imperative to cut it down drastically so that no anti Pakistan activities get a back up support from here.
What the US did in Abbottabad was just a fake exercise to test the Pakistan defences. Also as said by Senator John Kerry, that the US will study the strategic capabilities of Pakistan. This was reported in “US Attacks Pakistan.”
The precision with which the entire PNS Mehran destruction was carried out was not the job of any ordinary terrorist organisation. They were highly trained people, as per the information received from sources, they were trained and backed up by Delta Force.
PNS Mehran was selected for it had the latest PC 3 Orion aircraft that has the capability of long range surveillance and anti submarine warfare as a force multiplier. This was done to weaken Pakistan Navy so that it can not influence any US attack from the sea that is likely to happen on Makran coast.
The press statement of Admiral Nauman Bashir was incorrectly reported by the media. He never said yes or no to a security lapse, in fact he left it to the judgment of the media and the people.
To avoid such embarrassments for future, Chief of Naval Staff should speak through his DG Public Relations.
The second analysis was to cover the visit of Hillary Clinton and her delegation that was here to further pressurize Pakistan in carrying out more. Pakistan has had enough, now it must back off from the so called war on terror that is basically launched to weaken the Muslim countries.
Hillary, true to her character, like a jungle queen, has been issuing warnings to Pakistan. So has been Mike Mullen. The reception that was accorded to her should never have been done. Every visitor must be treated according to his/her level. She was treated like a head of state that was never liked by the people of Pakistan.
Washington Post had carried a report that there are extremist and hardliners in Pakistan Army. This was a complete disinformation campaign launched against Pakistan. This needs to be countered effectively by our media under the direction of Ministry of Information and ISPR.
Pakistan should not scum under any pressure, instead it should further strengthen her relations with China and get more closer to Russia the two big powers in our neighbourhood. Same time, we must develop more strong relations with Iran. In fact we should have soft border with Iran and open relations for our mutual benefit.
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AS
01. Jun, 2011
'Same time, we must develop more strong relations with Iran. In fact we should have soft border with Iran and open relations for our mutual benefit'.
This should have been done before but busharaf made it impossible
Salaam brother is that why the US want to invade Baluchistan and are massing troops in south of Iraq , Kuweit, Oman, Eastern part of Saudi Arabia ? It sounds like this akhi…
helpreport
01. Jun, 2011
Indians say:
These P3 Orions were fitted with the E3C Sentry AWAC suit, which is being used to tap into ISI, Al-Qaeda and Pak army communications. Problem is the US NEVER give such sensitive AWAC suites to other countries without a comprehensive End-User-Monitoring agreement, which allows CIA to also monitor whatever the Orion's E3 suit was picking up on the Pak-Afghan border.That is why ISI had to get rid of the P3 Orion, and not because it was a threat to Indian subs. That is why ISI had to get rid of the P3 Orion, and not because it was a threat to Indian subs. That is why ISI had to get rid of the P3 Orion, and not because it was a threat to Indian subs
Any comments?
Rabbit
02. Jun, 2011
Complete rubbish. The Indians are terrorists and nothing they say when it comes to Pakistan can be trusted, nor does it make any sense. Next you'll try and tell us they orchestrated the phony killing of Bin Laden in their own backyard to somehow hide some other imagined sin.
India is crawling with MOSSAD terrorists and is a proven deciever in the "War of Terror", nothing its leaders say is worth more than the lies which spew from the lips of the USA and Israel.
Khalifa
02. Jun, 2011
'Same time, we must develop more strong relations with Iran. In fact we should have soft border with Iran and open relations for our mutual benefit'.
only idiots would contarary to the above text!
India is a US/UK.EU/Israheli coolie nation. they claim lofty notions like democracy etc while carrying out Class politics – democracy is opposite of class ideology and that makes it demokery.
Pakistan should shut hilarys butcher bordello of raymond davies should be blown and the land cleaned and given to the nation of Palestine.
Rabbit i echo:
India is crawling with MOSSAD terrorists and is a proven deciever in the "War of Terror", nothing its leaders say is worth more than the lies which spew from the lips of the USA and Israel
Raja regarding:
Hillary, true to her character, like a jungle queen, has been issuing warnings to Pakistan
- jungle queen? NO SIR that bitch is thunder thighs ugly as hell JUNGLE QUEENS ARE GRACEFUL WISE ONE AND THAT IS HARDLY SOMETHING YOU CAN ABOUT THE UGLY cowboy yankee BROAD
Shining-Pearl
02. Jun, 2011
Sir!!! you are saying right…. Now, the American roots should be completely eradicated from Pakistan…. their interferance shouldn't be tolarated…. And I agree with you that one day they will attack on us and now, thay are just clearing their way. Govt. is not sincere with the nation so, our hopes are with our forces… "be united, think and work" this is how we can proceed to the Shinnig Future….
Kamal Khan
02. Jun, 2011
It was that what you have mentioned PLUS the 4 Chinese on the base "ALSO" were the targets. Goes without saying that the 6 Americans who lived on the PNS Mehran Base were involved and used to come and go "Completely Unchecked" of course
there was inside help also.
Rabbit
02. Jun, 2011
This analysis is spot on. All decent countries should cut all ties with the USA. It is a pity that Australia is totally beholden to them, we have no independent foreign policy and nor do we have an honorable or honest country anymore as a result.
There is a very real danger from the USA, of terrorism amd infiltration by their spies as well as Indian and israeli ones with their help and tutelage. Russia is being very dissapointing of late but China does begin to show some promise at last as a counterweight or serious opponent if it must come to that.
The Amerrican people have lost control of their government and it is driven by the military industrial complex and Israeli interests, they are a clear and present danger to the survival of mankind and it is to be hoped that the USA will cease to exist as a power of any kind before too much longer, or it seems the world may not have much longer.
helpreport
02. Jun, 2011
I didnt ask Indians are terrorist or not. I was asking were those things installed on the planes or not, becasue if they were, the theory about submarines fails. I am an independant researcher and I thought some informed people could explain. I am on neither side nor Indian or Pakistani and Im aware the two countries should first kick out US from the region to make peace and prosper. Divide and rule is a western imperialistic ploy.
molvi_whisky
02. Jun, 2011
Helpreport how do you know P3Orions are tapped, more absurd that ISI was behind it, then how do you explain more than 6 more Orions are ready to be delivered to Pak Navy??? BTWay you are typical Hindu = ALL LIES, even India is buying P3Orions from US, are you even aware ?
American designs on Pakistan are nothing new, only that the media isn't covering it due to ignorance or willfully. The independent media as well as Zionist run media has reported of plans by Americans to invade Pakistan via Makran through a so called joint war game with Pakistan. Recently there have been reports that Dubai government is training merceneries (only NON-Muslims) for possible use against political disturbances, but it is likely to be used against Pakistan, because insurgents caught in Baluchistan upon interrogation confessed to getting training in Dubai.
You have to watch one country in particular QATAR, the base of al-Jazeera, yet this small state is the outpost of Isral (joining NATO in the bombing of Libya to force it to join IMF as a slave state and take control of it's oil), and it is the only state in the Gulf which hasn't seen any street movement.
Pakistan should go ahead and let China make Gwadar it's base, move at least 30,000,000 Pakistanis from all provinces to Baluchistan to help develop it's minerals, agri and other fields and help defend it especially in the problem areas.
helpreport
02. Jun, 2011
Well if you think Im Hindu check out my posts on Times of India, there Im a Paki, Porki and all those things…So dont be same as them…I was just asking for some good answer to counter Indian propaganda becasue Im very well aware of the role of Raymond Davies, fake Osama, zionist take over of US…Man, you really dont have to tell me those things. Rather focus on the good answer to the question above. Statements like, this is rubbish and similar are not really useful. Good thing would be to look into the contracts and deals which come with those aircrafts, do the US has rights to listen to the intelligence collected with those planes or not? Is anyone able to answer and explain? Perhaps Raja Mujtaba can refute this important issue in the next article. All this about Orion planes has a lot to do with the theories regarding the death of Shahzad also. So who killed him in your opinion? Im with you folks, Im aware of the game US is playing and Chinese acces to the coast, Balochi resisitance sponsored by CIA, MI6, RAW. But the Chinese denied they are going to build the port and naval base at Gwadar recently. Check out the article on atimes.com by Peter Lee, if Im not mistaken "China drop the Gwadar hot potato".
helpreport
02. Jun, 2011
Here is the answer I got on Orions on TOI forum:
Naresh replies to helpreport
2 hrs ago (01:15 PM)
OK, Firstly, Orion P3 cannot do anything against Tomahawk missile (other than maybe track it), since Orion's role is not anti-missile, but following: 1) maritime reconnaissance and Anti-sub. 2) Some AWAC capability. 3) Electronic ground surveillance and eavesdropping. Roles (1) and (2) are India specific. However while role (3) can also be used against India, the US may have somehow "twisted the arm" of the Pro-US faction within Pak ISI to use the aircraft more for electronic eavesdropping on AlQaeda/Taliban, and also inadvertently picked up the communication between ISI and AlQaeda/Taliban. The pro AlQaeda/Taliban group within ISI realized this after OBL raid, and were probably p1ssed off that their influence was overridden in the decision to use P3 against AlQaeda/Taliban (And worse, they may have been unaware that P3 was transmitting their conversations to CIA). What form this power-struggle took within ISI corridors is immaterial. What is key is that Shahzad correctly identified this and even had the names of the ISI people involved. And Yes, it is almost guaranteed that CIA also had these names; But CIA would not have publicly exposed these people as it would have had more value to use the info to pressure Pak to follow CIA interests. However, Shahzad was not CIA and his agenda was more to get the scoop which ISI (and CIA) were trying to hide from the public, for their own but different reasons. This is what killed Shahzad…
Any reasonable counter opinion?
molvi_whisky
02. Jun, 2011
A syndicated fund should be created with equity and guarantee by the federal and baluchistan government with investment open only to China, Russia, Germany, Brazil, Venezuela, Cuba and other Islamic countries to develop resources in Baluchistan and then whole of Pakistan.
molvi_whisky
02. Jun, 2011
Rumours of Mollah Omar getting killed in Pakistan and the reported talks between US and Talibans is part of disinfo.
The question to askkkkk is, if the Americans were capable of speaking to the closest confidants of Mollah Omar, then WHAT STOPS THEM FROM TRACKING HIM DOWN by just following "the courier" as in the case of Osama.
The Talibans (and not the phony Paki Talibans who are on the payroll of Jews who run America) claim M.O. is in Afghanistan.
In fact how does the Jewish run media so conveniently get word out from Talibanns and M.O. but continously begs Pakistan to take them out is beyond one's comprehension.
The reported claims and messages appearing in the Jewish run mainstream media should be taken with a pinch of salt too, but it makes one ponder why ordinary folks don't get tipped but only them, which leads you to suspect of association between terror and mainstream media.
Anwar Rahim
03. Jun, 2011
Very thought provoking talk, people of Pakistan must see the situation with realistic approach. Friends and Foes are very apparent now, after the Abbottabad debackle and PNS- Mehran episode, its clear that confusion must be removed by very clear ideas and clear decisions.
Brig Samson Sharaf
03. Jun, 2011
Very big statements coming from Raja, a learned and well connected sage.
It's sad that the so called pseudo liberals in Pakistan condemn Pakistan for everything and support USA. A good appraisal of the imperial oversight
zaheer javed
03. Jun, 2011
In depth study…thanks
Khalid Rahman
08. Jun, 2011
We need more analytical and erudite stuff like this to see our problems in proper perspective. Sessions with media and opinion leaders to discuss such issues would help much. Thanks for the enlightening piece. Regards.
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